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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 4 | SUNDAY 2 NOVEMBER 2014

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fifi, I had the opposite impression.  That Jack's involvement almost overshadowed the case entirely.  Martha was quick to question him.  Tracker data was pulled right away.  



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*waits for thuds*

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mmm. more Jack with less clothes..

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domino, you do realize you just brought this chat to a standstill with those gifs... lust



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Well this was just a delight! But I totally missed it the first time I watched and had to watch 5+1 straight after, once I saw people tweeting about it!

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whimsy - they might have treated him a little suspiciously, but I would've thought he'd have been taken off the case in this sort of situation

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thought we'd get it out of the way whimsy! oh and bow

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lol Jozie!

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Jack is in a bit of a pickle and he knows it... the whole after shower scene, getting the towel and handing it in.... I was filled with an adrenalised glee when i first saw this....

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Well, childish behaviour might be one side of Jack's nature we now have to deal. You can see DAMO upgrading Jack's character trough these series. I think in this ep we started to see the last and final version of Jack. And his true nature we haven't see before. Makes him so cute..

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fifi, why take him off the case if they didn't have anything more than a vague worry/suspicion by this point?  Martha seemed to be investigating his actions, but didn't have cause to pull him yet, I thought. 



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he had not mentioned the evidence at all up until the point he handed it in... a fact noticed by Charlie....

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I liked the way it was filmed sneakily through the gap in the door!

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hate to do this to you folks but time is up on these scenes! any last thoughts?

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I'm sorry those gifs messed my mind for while.

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Jozie, he's cute when he's lying/deceiving? (not that I'm disagreeing)

 



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loved that too Rosie!

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Lets move on!

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Scenes 6 - 12 (15 mins)

 

Scene 6 ( 02.53 - 03.34 )

At the suspects board, Martha and Jack give a team briefing about Edward Shaffer - they believe someone pushed him over the balcony. Jack tells the team that Shaffer killed Scott Freeman with a padlock and chain and that grey cotton fibres were found in the links, which he believes belong to the towels the Shaffers use at the dance academy and that he found a grey towel covered in blood at the tow path which he fast tracked to forensics. Martha asks was Edward killed by someone else in the paedophile ring who wanted to shut him up.

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Scene 7 ( 03.35  - 04.21 )

Jack and Charlie report to Martha in her office. Jack says the Freeman sisters have an alibi at the time of the murder they were at the undertakers arranging Scott's funeral. Charlie says a neighbour heard Edward screaming and shouting minutes before he was killed. Martha suggests Tamsin has motive and tells them to bring her in.

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Scene 8 ( 04.42 - 04.50  )

When Charlie and Jack arrive at the dance studio Tamsin is angry because her business is finished and she's had death threats. Jack tells her Edward is dead and her legs give way.

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Scene 9 ( 04.51 - 05.41 )

Charlie takes a statement from Tamsin about her movements from when Edward left custody and the time of his murder. She said she had gone for a drink and not returned to the flat, but wished she had as she would have murdered him herself.

 

Scene 10 ( 05.42  - 06.44 )

Jack reports to Martha in her office on Edward's call data, he was receiving lots of voicemails from angry parents, one was more persistent and called about 20 times, the number has been traced to 27 year old mature student Justin Meercroft, and they are trying to find out why. As he is  leaving Martha asks Jack why it took him so long to hand in the grey towel evidence. Jack prevaricates, and says he found the towel put it in his car, on his way back to the station heard the i-call about Edward so went there, but handed it in as soon as he returned  and showered.

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Scene 11 (  06.45 - 08.08 )

In the 'soft' interview room, Jack and Charlie interview Justin who claims he was ringing  Edward so much as he wanted to cancel the party he planned there because he has seen paedo on Edwards van, he had left a deposit and was keen to get it back. This afternoon, when Edward was killed, he was at the library and the card swipe system should prove that.

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Scene 12 ( 08.09 - 09.24 )

Martha calls Jack into her office. The DCI has been asking about his 'slightly bizarre route' that took him so close to the Shaffers' house and they need to verify that route via his car tracker. Jack says he is being made to feel like he has done something wrong, Martha replies to just help her out, it is a very high profile case.

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Charlie interrupts to show them footage from a usb stick found on Edward's key ring, which shows a group of men abusing a young boy.

 



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Whimsy, he's so cute when he's acting all childish. Makes him so cute, like puppies when they are turning down their ears when they have done something bad and they know it and they still try to get out of the situation like nothing happened.



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There's a thread through the rest of this ep that is very observable in these scenes... on the one hand Jack expresses himself in a hard done by manner, as if he has done nothing wrong, yet he is on his absolute best behaviour from now on. And there are lots of little looks, asides, moments. He is fully aware that he has bent the rules a little...

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So many more twists in these scenes. Still wasn't sure who had killed Edward at this stage.

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Jack is acting like nothing have happen. He might know that the situation might be bad if his boss finds out what he have done, I bet that deep inside he knows he has done wrong BUT thinks he had every right to it cause he wanted to catch the bad guy no matter what the cause was.

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Also standing out for me is despite the divisions and undercurrents brewing between the three detectives, this case really pulls them together where it matters. when the full extent of this hideous unthinkable crime is revealed, they all step up to the plate, working together as an effective team

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Yes domino, Jack really seems to knuckle down to solve this. He doesn't want to raise any more suspicion I guess as he's probably hoping Martha won't bring it up again. Also, he only planned to plant the evidence because he wanted to bring Edward to justice

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