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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 1 EPISODE 4 | SUNDAY 4 MAY 2014

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Join us for the Suspects Episode 4 'scene by scene' Jack Chat, this Sunday 4 May!

 

 

What?   chat with other fans about Suspects Episode 4

When?  Sunday 4 May 8.30pm (uk time)

Where? Right here in this forum topic

How?    Just turn up, log in and join in!

 

 



Things you can do before the Jack Chat:

 

~ Have a re watch of this episode on Demand 5 here

( international peeps, you can watch from outside the uk legally, using a VPN service like Tunnelbear or hola )

~ Check out the Episode synopsis, screencaps and complete subtitles here

~ Check out the Episode 1, 2 and 3 Jack Chats here

 

 

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It took an age to do, but it's finally here... the Suspects Episode 4 Scene breakdown, with new screencaps. 

 

JACK CHAT
SUSPECTS EPISODE 4 SCENE BREAKDOWN

Scene 1: (00.00-01.09)

Newsreader voiceover:

"Reports tonight suggest that police have been called to the home of Terrence Holland. Mr Holland is terminally ill and a prominent campaigner for the right to die."

Jack arrives at the house of Terence Holland, who has just been taken away in an ambulance. Charlie is already on the scene, who tells Jack Terence is an investment banker who is also terminally ill and had been found with an apparent drugs overdose with needle marks and bruising on his right arm, as a passionate right to die campaigner it is a potential high profile suicide case. 

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Scene 2: (01.10-01.52)

Jack talks to Dr Melanie Standish who called the police. She says she arrived at the house earlier that evening to hear what she thought was row between Terence and his wife Henrietta, who are going through a bitter divorce, so she left them to it and went for a walk. when she returned she knocked, no one answered, she couldn't hear any voices, became concerned, rang Terence's mobile got no reply and was worried so she called the police.

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Scene 3: (01.53-02.39)

Jack and Charlie are still in the house, Henrietta was found "out for the count" in the bedroom when the police arrived earlier. Jack asks forensics if they've found any "sharps" (needles), but there are none in the house. Terence has an advanced stage of cancer and could not have injected himself. Charlie says it is pretty straightforward "wife Henrietta has tried to help Terence to die".

Jack replies, "woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, don't start jumping to conclusions, that's my job"

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Scene 4: (02.40-03.31) Charlie interviews wife Henrietta at headquarters, who says they talked and Terence fell asleep, she was tired so took some sleeping pills and fell asleep about 7pm, before the row was overheard by Dr Standish.

 

Scene 5: (03.32-04.15)

Jack and Charlie are at their desks. Jack has info on Terence up on his computer, he set up Euthanasia UK and Dr Melanie Standish is an ardent supporter of the campaign. There were no signs of forced entry to the house, so Jack suggests they find anyone who had access, and Terence could have been rowing with, like family. Charlie has been looking for his brother Matt Holland but cannot find him, and has spoken to his wife Jess.

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Scene 6: (04.16-05.09)

Jack and Charlie interview Jess Holland at the hospital. She says Terence has been really positively lately. She has a key but that evening was at friend Edna Locks' house from about 6ish for a couple of hours. Matthew (brother/husband) was out with friends and does not know about Terence.

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Scene 7: (05.10-6.22)

Jack, Charlie are in the main office. The toxicology report show Terence suffered a morphine overdose and traces of Zopiclone (sleeping tab) were also found. Henrietta's sleeping tablets were found in the kitchen area and Terence's medication log book shows there is a vial of morphine missing from the fridge. Martha suggests they need to find out how the pills were administered. Jack has been in touch with Terence and Henrietta's solicitors, divorce papers were sent to H a month ago and she still hasn't signed them, as T is well off, could there may be a financial motive for his murder?

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Scene 8: (06.23-07.14)

On the sleeping evidence, Jack and Charlie go to the hospital to arrest Henrietta. Jack asks Charlie if she wants to do it, she says no. Jack arrests her on suspicion of assisting a suicide, she protests and Jack says he doesn't want to have to use handcuffs, "Let's go quickly, let's go quietly".

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Scene 9: (07.15-08.49)

Jack interviews Henrietta (solicitor present) who says she hasn't signed the divorce papers because they decided to give it a go, kept it quiet to avoid outside pressure from family. Jack asks her about the sleeping pills and the argument, she claims there was no argument, they talked for a hour then she went to sleep.

"Well, we've found traces of the pills in his system. Just something for you to think about."

"You're husband has a lot of money, he's terminally ill and I  think you wanna get your hands on that...."

"...You gave him sleeping pills, you knocked him out and you dosed him up to the gills with morphine ok..."

she strongly protests she would never have done that.

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Scene 10: (8.50-09.01)

Martha and Jack walk to the office, Martha asks if Jack bought Henrietta's story he replies "I can't figure out if she's genuine upset or if she's bullshitting us. Ok, but if I was a betting man, I'd say that this argument was about money".

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Scene 11: (09.02-09.55) Charlie interviews Edna in her home, who corroborates that Jess visited her last night. Charlie notices Edna's morphine, she also has cancer, and discovers that her care nurse is Matt, Terence's brother, who gives her the morphine injections.

 

Scene 12: (09.56-10.43)

Back at the office Charlie tells Martha that Matt is Edna's care nurse and knows how to administer morphine and that she had traced him to a casino last night but no sign of him now. Jack tells them forensics had found Terence has definitely drunk something laced with Henrietta's sleeping pills and a mug had been found with a powdery residue, from which fingerprints had been deliberately wiped off.

Martha "It doesn't sound like an assisted suicide Jack"

Jack "No, it's looking like an attempted murder"

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Scene 13: (10.44-11.02)

Martha points out that someone removed the syringe from the house, if they can identify it was Henrietta, it will "deconstruct her alibi", but Charlie reports back to Jack and Martha that sleeping tablets were found in Henrietta's system.

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Scene 14: (11.03-11.35)

Jack interviews Henrietta again, in quite an aggressive manner, pointing out the evidence of sleeping tablets in Terence's coffee cup

"You and Terrence were alone in the house, he can't walk, he can't feed himself, you had the sleeping tablets, the sleeping tablets are in his system. Explain that. "

Henrietta passionately reiterates she did not give him the sleeping pills.

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Scene 15: (11.36-12.22)

Jack has been through Terence's mobile phone history. He has made a lot of contact with the rectory at St Sebastian's church. He had a call with Dr Standish yesterday afternoon as well as a 30 min call from the fraud dept at a credit card company, who said that it was to do with a credit card that was completely maxed out with no repayments made on it, but T denied all knowledge of the card. Jack wonders if someone who has access to T's flat is defrauding him for money.

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Scene 16: (12.23-13.09)

Jack tells Charlie the credit card has solely been used for withdrawing money from ATMs and questions whether Matt and jess Holland have access to the flat, indicating his suspicion that they could be suspects now. Martha calls them n to her office to tell them Matt has been found sleeping off a hangover on a park bench.

 

Scene 17: (13.10-14.19)

Jack interviews Matt, who says he was at a party last night. Jack asks why he is not providing Terence with any are himself considering it is his field of work as a care nurse, Matt replies it is too much for him to take on, but his brother has the best care money can buy with a private GP

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Scene 18: (14.20-14.41) Charlie interview Jess, who seems surprised about Matt being found on a park bench and says they are saving up for a flat.

 

Scene 19: (14.42-15.25)

Jack has further info on Terence's bank account and financial transactions, a payment of £12,000 was made to Dr Melanie Standish after the phone call they had yesterday afternoon. Charlie questions if that is T paying her to help him end his life. Martha points out it is not enough money for a private GP, which is a highly lucrative career, but wants her movements corroborated fro last night.

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Scene 20: (15.26-16.15)

the team watch cctv footage of Dr Standish, which shows her bumping into Terence's neighbour who said she seemed tense and stressed out. Charlie makes supposition that was because she was on her way to administer a near lethal drug overdose.

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Jack points out she was the one who called the police, Charlie suggests so that she can "get in there and corrupt the crime scene". Martha advises to focus on the evidence they do have, the payment of 12,000.

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Scene 21: (16.16-16.55)

The Three detectives are in Martha's office. Martha has spoken to the hospital Terence is out of intensive care but heavily sedated. Charlie has found that Dr Standish was subject to an internal investigation 2 years ago when working at a hospital, due to filing a 'do not resuscitate' file for an elderly patient against the family's wishes.

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Scene 22: (16.56-17.43)

Jack and Charlie go to the hospital where Dr Standish works, to arrest her on suspicion of attempted assisted suicide. Jack lets Charlie make the arrest, Dr Standish protests and Jack tells her "we will cuff you if you do not go willingly".

 

Scene 23: (17.44-19.19)

Jack and Charlie interview Dr Standish, who says she only noticed the 12,000 deposited into her business account by Terence that morning, and that she presumes he put it there because she was angry when he put her name in the public domain, (she is trustee of his right-to-die organisation), but doesn't want the money. She reiterates the events of the previous night confirming she does have a key to T's flat, but she does not know where it is. Charlie tells her they will be searching her flat and car and Dr S is outraged, telling them when the investigation is over, "your superiors will be hearing from me".

"Am I free to leave now?

"No absolutely not, you stay where you are"

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Scene 24: (19.20-19.45)

Jack oversees the inspection of Dr S's car, when forensics find a key on the front seat.

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Scene 25: (19.46 -20.06)

Jack and Charlie briefly discuss Dr Standish having a key to the flat, and if she was helping T with an assisted suicide why would he do that knowing Henrietta was still in the flat. Jack suggest talking to Henrietta again.

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Scene 26: (20.07-20.31) Charlie interviews Henrietta, who says Terence would not have known she stayed in the flat as he fell asleep first, and she left her sleeping pills on the work surface

 

Scene 27: (20.32-21.03)

Jack and Charlie discuss the case again, Jack asks why would Dr S have used sleeping pills, she would have known morphine was enough to kill Terence. Martha comes in to tell them that the sole beneficiary of Terence's will is sister-in-law Jess, not brother Matt, and Dr S is the executor.

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Scene 28: (21.04-21.45) Charlie interviews Dr Standish, who tells her that Matt has a gambling habit, which is why Terence left the money to Jess in his will

 

Scene 29: (21.46-22.33)

Jack Charlie and Martha are in the main office. Jack has been through Matt Holland's finances, discovering he lost a lot of money yesterday at the casino. Charlie has looked at Matt and Jess's joint finances, they are struggling but have occasional injections of cash about £500 to keep them going. Jack asks if there is a match between the money being taken from Terence's credit cards and these cash injections but there is not.

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Scene 30: (22.34-24.26) Charlie interview Jess Holland, who claims she does not know that she is the sole beneficiary in Terence's will and that she and Matt were struggling. she no longer works at her old job at beauty salon 'Clearly gorgeous' they are relying on Matt's income. When asked about the cash injections in their account she claims she works on the side giving beauty treatments.

 

Scene 31: (24.27-25.19) Charlie interviews Edna at her home, who is a beauty client of Jess's. Edna says she pays her in cash and only £20

 

Scene 32: (25.20-26.32)

Charlie talks to Martha in her office, she has spoken to Jess's former employer at the beauty salon 'Clearly Gorgeous' where she did Botox treatments etc, Martha points out she knows how to use a needle. the money she earns on the side is not enough to account for the injections of cash in their bank account. Jack comes in

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Jack "Were you guys talking about me? I heard 'clearly gorgeous' "

Martha "oh.. clearly deluded"

Jack "Ok, thank you"

Jack informs Martha that the the team have looked at Terence's computer and found an email from his solicitor giving details of the will, which had been forwarded on to Matt Holland. So contrary to what Jess had told Charlie, they did know they were beneficiaries. Martha asks that they get hold of Matt again.

 

Scene 33: (26.33-27.37) Charlie goes to the interview room where she left Jess to find it empty

 

Scene 34: (26.38-27-08 )

Jack, Charlie and Martha look at footage of the interview room showing Jess making a phone call, traced to husband Matt, and leaving right after Charlie had interviewed her, telling Lee on the front desk she had to go to work, despite not having a job. Martha says they will circulate them as wanted and issue a section 8 warrant to search their flat.

On leaving the room Jack says, "Why did you let her go Charlie?"

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Scene 35: (27.09-28.08)

Charlie shows Martha cctv footage of Matt and Jess leaving their house in their car and having a row. Jack reports that their house search revealed their house was a mess and they had "definitely done a runner", and they found 3 credit cards registered to Terence, and a bank deposit book registered to Edna lock's bank account, where it is clear the money from the credit cards has been put into Edna bank account. Jack and Charlie leave in a hurry when jack receives a call that the Holland's are on their way to Edna's house.

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Scene 36: (28.09-29.25)

When Jack and Charlie arrive, they see the Holland's' car parked in the street in front of Edna's house.

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Once inside, Jack searches the house, but there is no sign of them. Edna is angry the police are at her house again and appears to start having chest pain. Jack calls for an ambulance.

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Scene 37: (29.26-30.52)

Jack and Charlie are at the hospital waiting for news on Edna, who appears to have been faking it. Jack has found out that one of the neighbours saw Jess and Matt leaving in Edna's car 5 mins before he and Charlie arrived. Charlie speaks to Edna asking her where her debit card is and when she evades the questions tells her she is obstructing a police investigation, Jack comes in to inform them someone has been tracked using Edna's debit card.

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Scene 38: (30.53-31.35)

Jack and Charlie drive to find Matt and Jess. Spotting Edna's car and the couple walking through the park they pull over at the park's exit, but when Matt and Jess see them they run, the 2 detectives chase them, Jack arrests Jess while Charlie arrests Matt.

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Scene 39: (31.36-33.11) In interview room 3 Martha and Charlie talk to Jess who says they ran away and took Edna's car because she panicked about what Matt had done. Martha challenged her that she had the forethought to take Edna's debit card and asked about the money she has been putting in Edna's account, she replies it was Matt's winnings from the casino, so she kept it in Edna's account so he didn't spend it all.

 

Scene 40: (33.12-34.50)

In interview room 2, Jack and Charlie talk to Matt. Jack show him the Terence's 3 credit cards recovered from Matt and Jess's place, Matt responds he is going to pay it all back, he is a gambling addict he has a problem but he is trying to deal with it. Separate from that he claims Terence asked him to assist him in dying, and jess didn't know. He then appears to make a confession to having been at Terence's flat that night and helping with the assisted suicide attempt.

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Scene 41: (34.51-35.38)

Martha tells Jack and Charlie that she spoke to the priest Terence had been on the phone to, he had wanted to renew his marriage vows. Jack points out that does not sound like someone who is going to commit suicide and that Matt's story is looking dodgy.

Martha: "So, who's our killer guys?  Matt, or Jess?"

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Scene 42: (35.39-36.41)

Jack  interviews Matt again, telling him Terence was planning a ceremony, not his funeral but repeating his wedding vows. Matt seemed surprised but insisted it was him who injected Terence, while not being able to look Jack in the eye. Jack leaves the room slamming the door.

 

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Scene 43: (36.42-37.11)

Jack and Charlie discuss the case on the roof. Jack says Matt strikes him as "the kind of guy who doesn't really have the balls to carry this thing out". Charlie says Jess's victim story is weak Jack agrees it is BS, but the two are not going to change their stories. Charlie suggests "maybe Edna?"

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Scene 44: (37.12-37.35)

Jack has checked all routes to Edna's there are no cctv cameras, Charlie suggests the congestion charging cameras.

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Scene 45: (37.36-38.26)

Charlie and Jack speak to Martha in her office . Jess was captured on the congestion charging zone area going to Edna's house at 8pm, 2 hours later than she said meaning she has no alibi for the time Terence was injected. Martha points out it is not evidence she actually did it, she needs to be linked with the syringe, which was not found at Terence's house. Charlie suggests now Jess is a suspect, she could have hidden the syringe at Edna's house.

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Scene 46: (38.27-39.35) Charlie and a police team search Edna's house, Charlie talks to Edna who admits she lied about last night, but said Jess had only wanted to help Terence, he had asked her to. Charlie told her Jess lied as T was about to renew his vows.

 

Scene 47: (39.36-40.29)

Jack interviews Matt again, telling him that they are charging Jess with attempted murder. Matt says that Jess told him Terence asked him to do it. Jack becomes irate, asking why he is standing up for her, when she tried to kill him and defraud him of what could be millions. Matt said Jess had said he wasn't man enough and it was his fault.

"if she asked you jump of a fucking cliff would you do the same?"

 

Scene 48: (40.40-42.24) Martha and Charlie interview Jess, showing her the syringe that they found at Edna's house which ahs her fingerprints on it. Jess responds that Terence asked her to help him die, so he did, but that matt didn't know because he is weak and wouldn't have been able to go through with it and that she did not know Henrietta was in the flat at the time.

Martha: "Jess Holland, I think the only person you were really trying to help was yourself. You were stealing from your brother-in-law, he was about to find out, so you tried to kill him. You're going to prison love."

 

Scene 49: (42.25-end)

Jack and Charlie are on the rooftop, discussing Henrietta.

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Charlie: "I went to see Henrietta at the hospital. "

Jack: "yeah?"

Charlie: "I really nearly let slip about Terrence wanting to renew their vows. I just, I felt like we really put her through the mill last night and today. I wanted to have some good news."

Jack: "like we put her through the mill, or you really put her through the mill?

Charlie: "What's that supposed to mean? what's that supposed to mean?"

 Jack: "You had her in your eye line from the get-go."

Charlie: "May I remind you that you very much took my Henrietta bone and ran with it."

Jack: "My granny used to always say, "Don't ever let me rot away in a nursing home, put me out of my misery before it gets that way." "

Charlie: "It's such a hard decision."

Jack: "It's getting old man. No-one wants to get old. Listen, I'll buy you a pint.

Charlie: "You're going to buy me a pint? "

Jack: "Yeah."

 Charlie: "I will take that."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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With a quote like this in Suspects ep 4, the Jack chat tomorrow is a MUST!

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So......................... who is coming?!



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I'm coming!

I must say this must be my fav Suspects quote everbiggrin



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Great Jozie! Me too, I may have literally squealed when watching it live on tv for the first time!

so..........Just me and Jozie then?!?

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My all time fave Hal line (just love the way he says it)

"We've been played! My God! We've been played!"

"Annie's getting hysterical downstairs and I'm not enjoying it"

"kill me. Kill me now. You can tell Annie that I attacked you or something"

"“Were you guys talking about me? I heard ‘clearly gorgeous’” 

 "Yes because otherwise you are quite the catch"

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Glofigs24 wrote:

I have work from 3-7


 I've no idea what that is in UK time zone Glofigs, but I am guessing you can't make it, sorry to hear that, thanks for letting us know



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Suggested schedule (roughly!) for tonight's Jack Chat:

 

Scenes 1 - 5 (15 mins)

Scenes 6 - 10 (15 mins)

Scenes 11 - 14 (15 mins)

Scenes 15 - 21 (15 mins)

Scenes 22 - 31 (15 mins)

Scenes 32 - 38 (20 mins)

Scenes 39 - 46 (15 mins)



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Hi everyone!

welcome to the scene by scene JACK CHAT for Suspects episode 4!


You need to be logged in to join in with the chat, which will take place in this forum topic, so there will be a permanent record of it on the forum.

if you are not already registered just think of a username (you can pick any name you like) and click here to register.





chat guidelines

1. the discussion will be scene by scene with screencaps, and is timed (see schedule above)

2. refresh your page regularly to keep up with the chat and to see new comments

3. please stick to the scene we are discussing, that way we will have time to discuss the whole episode and the whole group can follow and join in without it becoming chaotic or going off on tangents

4. please keep comments reasonable length so the chat flows and is easy to follow

5. please just try to join in or leave off without disrupting the chat if you join the chat late or leave early

6. Suspects does contain strong language! so there will be some in this chat

7. this episode of Suspects contains harrowing subject matter, if we don't address certain aspects it is not because we are being flippant about that whatsoever, it is because sometimes it can be difficult to talk about and we want to be sensitive to and respect that

8. This topic will remain on the forum for anyone to read, or to add to, in the future



thanks!



So....... Who is here with us for the chat tonight?



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I'm here, but as a lurker for now.

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I'm here! :)

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Hi, I'm here.  

 



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Hi ithaca, welcome! it's a chat, no lurking allowed! (or else it will just be me talking to myself and that's no fun!)

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Hey Jane, glad you made it

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before we begin, what would you all prefer, that this topic is open to the public so everyone can view it, or members only so people have to log in to read and join in?

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Yeah, sorry I'm late.  



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Personally, I think it should be private to encourage others to join and so we can say whatever we want without worrying about the "public".  But it doesn't really matter all that much to me. 



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I agree Jane, i prefer that too. It feels a bit like you're on display and people are jsut looking in without taking part.

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