ok .. the Edna scenes.. I love Edna because she's not a weak little old lady, she's a crafty and canny woman! although sadly she is a victim in the end, she is not a victim in so many other ways if that makes sense
Well I try to find that line tomorrow domino ;)
But it looks like I need to go to sleep. Have to wake up after 5 hours. But this was nice as always, thank you domino for those screencaps, they are going to make me sweet dreams I'm sure.
And thank you everyone who joined this chat tonight, you gave me lot to ponder and good night <3
(and Ithaca, make sure you put new clue in that guessing game, I feel like I want to melt my brains littlebit more, in a good way ;))
maybe there is something in what you said about male / female arrests Jane, because Charlie arrests Jess and Jack arrests Matt in that great scene with the chase through the park and the double arrest
Yes. I noticed that. Though that makes more sense to me because they're more physical arrests. It's going to be easier for Charlie to catch up to and subdue the female if there is a female and a male involved. But it seems kind of sexist to me if she is only allowed to arrest the females, especially when it's obviously a non combatant male.
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Scene 39: (31.36-33.11) In interview room 3 Martha and Charlie talk to Jess who says they ran away and took Edna's car because she panicked about what Matt had done. Martha challenged her that she had the forethought to take Edna's debit card and asked about the money she has been putting in Edna's account, she replies it was Matt's winnings from the casino, so she kept it in Edna's account so he didn't spend it all.
Scene 40: (33.12-34.50)
In interview room 2, Jack and Charlie talk to Matt. Jack show him the Terence's 3 credit cards recovered from Matt and Jess's place, Matt responds he is going to pay it all back, he is a gambling addict he has a problem but he is trying to deal with it. Separate from that he claims Terence asked him to assist him in dying, and jess didn't know. He then appears to make a confession to having been at Terence's flat that night and helping with the assisted suicide attempt.
Scene 41: (34.51-35.38)
Martha tells Jack and Charlie that she spoke to the priest Terence had been on the phone to, he had wanted to renew his marriage vows. Jack points out that does not sound like someone who is going to commit suicide and that Matt's story is looking dodgy.
Martha: "So, who's our killer guys? Matt, or Jess?"
Scene 42: (35.39-36.41)
Jack interviews Matt again, telling him Terence was planning a ceremony, not his funeral but repeating his wedding vows. Matt seemed surprised but insisted it was him who injected Terence, while not being able to look Jack in the eye. Jack leaves the room slamming the door.
Scene 43: (36.42-37.11)
Jack and Charlie discuss the case on the roof. Jack says Matt strikes him as "the kind of guy who doesn't really have the balls to carry this thing out". Charlie says Jess's victim story is weak Jack agrees it is BS, but the two are not going to change their stories. Charlie suggests "maybe Edna?"
Scene 44: (37.12-37.35)
Jack has checked all routes to Edna's there are no cctv cameras, Charlie suggests the congestion charging cameras.
Scene 45: (37.36-38.26)
Charlie and Jack speak to Martha in her office . Jess was captured on the congestion charging zone area going to Edna's house at 8pm, 2 hours later than she said meaning she has no alibi for the time Terence was injected. Martha points out it is not evidence she actually did it, she needs to be linked with the syringe, which was not found at Terence's house. Charlie suggests now Jess is a suspect, she could have hidden the syringe at Edna's house.
Scene 46: (38.27-39.35) Charlie and a police team search Edna's house, Charlie talks to Edna who admits she lied about last night, but said Jess had only wanted to help Terence, he had asked her to. Charlie told her Jess lied as T was about to renew his vows.
Scene 47: (39.36-40.29)
Jack interviews Matt again, telling him that they are charging Jess with attempted murder. Matt says that Jess told him Terence asked him to do it. Jack becomes irate, asking why he is standing up for her, when she tried to kill him and defraud him of what could be millions. Matt said Jess had said he wasn't man enough and it was his fault.
"if she asked you jump of a fucking cliff would you do the same?"
Scene 48: (40.40-42.24) Martha and Charlie interview Jess, showing her the syringe that they found at Edna's house which ahs her fingerprints on it. Jess responds that Terence asked her to help him die, so he did, but that matt didn't know because he is weak and wouldn't have been able to go through with it and that she did not know Henrietta was in the flat at the time.
Martha: "Jess Holland, I think the only person you were really trying to help was yourself. You were stealing from your brother-in-law, he was about to find out, so you tried to kill him. You're going to prison love."
Scene 49: (42.25-end)
Jack and Charlie are on the rooftop, discussing Henrietta.
Charlie: "I went to see Henrietta at the hospital. "
Jack: "yeah?"
Charlie: "I really nearly let slip about Terrence wanting to renew their vows. I just, I felt like we really put her through the mill last night and today. I wanted to have some good news."
Jack: "like we put her through the mill, or you really put her through the mill?
Charlie: "What's that supposed to mean? what's that supposed to mean?"
Jack: "You had her in your eye line from the get-go."
Charlie: "May I remind you that you very much took my Henrietta bone and ran with it."
Jack: "My granny used to always say, "Don't ever let me rot away in a nursing home, put me out of my misery before it gets that way." "
Charlie: "It's such a hard decision."
Jack: "It's getting old man. No-one wants to get old. Listen, I'll buy you a pint.
“Alice came to a fork in the road. 'Which road do I take?' she asked.
'Where do you want to go?' responded the Cheshire Cat.
'I don't know,' Alice answered.
'Then,' said the Cat, 'it doesn't matter.” L. Carroll
I have 2 observations about these scenes: Charlie's brainpower leads to 2 key pieces of evidence..the congestion cameras was her idea and suggesting the syringe could have been hidden by jess at Ednas....
and jack really seems to judge Matt for being 'weak'
"Jess Holland, I think the only person you were really trying to help was yourself. You were stealing from your brother-in-law, he was about to find out, so you tried to kill him. You're going to prison love."
