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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 2 | SUNDAY 5 OCTOBER 2014

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RE: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 2 | SUNDAY 5 OCTOBER 2014
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I felt a little uncomfortable with the way Martha tells Charlie about Jack's family. I don't think it was her place to say anything, especially as she told Charlie in the first episode that it was none of her business. She didn't come across as very compassionate.

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we do find out in the scene after (when Martha and Charlie talk o the rooftop) exactly what Jack's family history is.... heartbreaking.
did that change anyone's perspective on Jack's behaviour?

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Know what you mean Rosie....but I did kinda think her rather perfunctory way of telling Charlie was because she wasn't very comfortable sharing the personal info..but felt it needed to be done

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I guess Martha was trying to give Jack time to tell Charlie but when didn't she felt she needed to know.  I didn't agree with it though.  I think Martha should have gone to Jack and suggested he open up to Charlie. 



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agree Rosie, I did too. It felt just a tiny bit too flippantly said somehow. Charlie's reaction was not flippant however

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It didn't change my perception Domino because I figured it was something like that anyway. Had I not had any idea bout his past at this point then it might have.



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I think the audience had pretty much guessed the outline of what Martha told Charlie by this time, so no - it didn't really change my perspective, it was just confirmation of the details...

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I felt it was something like this, but not the attack on his mother, or the suicide of his brother. so tragic.

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*** 2 mins left on this scene ***

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I was surprised about the suicide.  I just figured he severed all contact with the family member.  



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The tea making scene was a bit of light relief in the midst of it all.... a new part of the set to see our detectives in

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Martha was blunt, but that didn't allow any emotionalism. Businesslike. Not something to dwell on, just something Charlie needed to know. I thought it suited her character.

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Jack cleaning his cup with his sleeve....lol!

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last thoughts!

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moving on!

scenes 27 - 37 (15 mins)

 

Scene 27 ( 16.30 - 17.35 )

Martha and Jack talk about Saul outside while Jack has a smoke. Martha asks him about the interview and  tells him she will be coming in with him. Jack appears to be not too pleased at the idea.

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MB: How's Saul's state of mind?

 

JW: Disastrous. He's been handcuffed,he's been detained,he's in tears, he can't remember what he's doing. He thinks he's killed Michael Collins.

 

MB: Got a psychiatrist coming in?

 

JW: She's with him now

 

MB: OK. So the plan for the interview, just talk me through it.

 

JW: Approach as normal. He's a vulnerable adult, I respect that, I appreciate that and I know how to deal with him. We start with him, you know, attacking Sadie yesterday.

 

MB: OK, I'm coming in with you.It's not a hand-holding thing..Just stakes are very high for me...

 

JW: For F***'s sake.

 

MB: ..And for you, as a knock-on effect, Jack, obviously.

 

JW: Yeah. OK.

 

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Scene 28 ( 17.36 - 18.54 )

Martha and Jack interview Saul. Jack is compassionate and tells Saul they are going to go very slowly and he can stop any time, he is in control. Saul is clearly distressed and vey erratic. He tells the detectives he and Sadie just chatted. When Jack questions further Saul becomes even more distressed and Martha suggests they take a break.

 

Scene 29 ( 18.55 - 19.26 )

Jack visits Sadie at the hostel again and asks her for more detail on what happened with Saul yesterdayShe claims he flipped out and hit her when she complained after he barged into her on the stairs.

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Scene 30 ( 19.27 - 20.37 )

Jack and Martha interview Saul again. Martha asks if when he saw Sadie did she have a bruise on her face and showed him a photo. Saul replies that she didn't. When Jack reveals that Sadie told then he had done this to her, and asks if he hit her, Saul becomes distressed and says he doesn't know.

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Scene 31 ( 20.38 - 21.07 )

In Martha's office, Charlie tells Martha and Jack that Carol's alibi about taking her dad to the pool club checks out. Jack says forensics have come back on the hammer and that Carol is not involved. Martha says they have to bail her.

 

Scene 32 ( 21.08 -  21.50 )

Charlie drives Carol home. She has been charged with neglect, theft of her Dad's benefits and perverting the course of justice.

Scene 33 ( 21.51 - 22.16 )

In the main office Martha tells Jack and Charlie that the press conference has paid off , a man had been sighted on the common, the tech team have come up with an e fit of him - he doesn't look like Saul. Jack says nothing but looks cynical.

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 Scene 34 ( 22.17 - 23.06 )

Jack has used his "male intuition" and tracked Michael's phone the night of his attack. It shows that the phone went static at the time of the attack but switches on again the next morning, Jack suggests it was taken at the time of the assault. He then shows them CCTV footage of a man, Daley Black, selling a phone at a pawn shop, his face fits the e-fit of the man seen on the common.

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Scene 35 ( 23.07 - 23.13 )

Jack brings Daley Black to the front desk at the station, arrested on suspicion of robbery.

 

Scene 36 ( 23.14  - 24.02 )

Martha and Jack interview Daley Black (solicitor present) who when asked where he was last night flippantly replies "I was on the common, looking for men to have sex with" but denies one of those men was Michael. Jack asks why he was pawning Michael's phone then, David replies that he found it and has never seen Michael before.

 

Scene 37 ( 24.03  - 24.32 )

At the suspects board, Charlie tells Martha and Jack that Nate and Daley know each other, and that Daley had used the same website Nate had to contact Jonathan, and had left Jonathan a few messages about meeting up - giving them their connection between both attacks.

(shot of ccv footage of Daley in the pawn shop)

 



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Soooo....Martha totally ambushed Jack when he pops out for a smoke!

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.....why didn't he go out on the roof? Was he trying to avoid her and Charlie?!

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I loved Jack's irritated smiling. 



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Martha is in a bit of a tricky position with jack here. It is a high profile case, and Saul is a vulnerable adult and she has concerns for how Jack has been during this case... so I understand her needing to check things out with him.. but also understand how jack would feel irked by that.

Also doesn't feel as if Jack realises the impact he is having on the team, or quite how affected he is by the case?



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Interesting thought fifi.  I just assumed the cage was more convenient to wherever he was in the building when the mood struck. 



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Yeah....despite the ffs! He reels it in pretty quickly...

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Jack continues to treat Saul more compassionately. Not sure if this is because Martha is there. Saul is heartbreaking again.

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the 'cage' reminds me of my virtual set tour!

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I started to wonder a bit about Sadie in scene 29.  I wasn't sure what was off but something seemed a bit off. 



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Was anyone else asking themselves what role Sadie had in the house?

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