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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 2 | SUNDAY 5 OCTOBER 2014

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Jack's apology to Saul............. discuss!

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Awww....

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Thanks Domino. 

It does seem once Jack apologizes to Saul and quits being hung up on Saul things seem to move faster.  It's maybe why he should get so obsessed over a specific subject. 



-- Edited by Random Jane on Sunday 5th of October 2014 10:15:00 PM

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Not sure how much was sincerity and how much was police work. He needed Saul to be cooperative.

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TJ - it's lovely that they decided to give us some personal background to these characters....I really hope we get a bit more of Charlie in the future.

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interesting........

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For once I felt it was actually sincere. 



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I think Jack is showing real understanding of Saul's illness but he should also be apologising to Martha and Charlie

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Again, for me there were levels to this apology scene. Glad he apologised, but also.... it didn't feel enough.
slightly agree with you on this TJ, but think it was both... I do think he felt bad at this point.

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Yeah...it seemed sincere to me - I thought he was quite embarrassed and guilty about his previous prejudice about Saul

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YES Rosie!

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Especially Charlie.....his behaviour towards her in ep 1 was totally outrageous

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And moving ahead to the scene where Saul was free to go (at last!) there were layers there too.....

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Awwww!!!!



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It's almost like Saul is trying to heal Jack. 



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This was very sweet! But for me it also shows that...whatever Jack may have felt about Saul, in all of his dealings he was always very professional and thoughtful in the way he dealt with him. Saul certainly never saw him as threatening..

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something deeper than 'the case' did pass between these too, very touching that Saul acknowledged it, even if he doesn't know the full story for Jack... Jack seemed to be inwardly squirming... not able to reciprocate professionally but also, guilt.... perhaps not just for the here and now... but isn't the implication that the reason Jack wanted to 'get' Saul is because of what his brother did to his Mum, when he wasn't there?

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What a lovely thought, Jane!

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Jane, thank you.. you have hit the nail on the head!

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Jack looked really uncomfortable when Saul hugged him but I think despite being proved wrong Jack is pleased for Saul that he is not responsible. I'm not sure that makes sense? Jack can understand Saul's terror that he could have killed someone and not remember.

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ok last thoughts on these scenes?

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I know exactly what you mean Jane. It's as if Jack is relieved to have been proved wrong...to have had his prejudices disproved....

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onwards to the final scenes!

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scenes 54 - 63 (20 mins)

Scene 54 ( 35.13 - 35.29 )

Charlie comes into Martha's office to tell her and Jack that someone matching Sadie's description has just bought an axe at a local hardware store. Jack and Charlie run out of the office.

 

Scene 55 ( 35.30 - 35.53 )

While in the car, they receive a call from Martha telling them Sadie has been sighted in the vicinity of Walbrick Road Station.

JW: (to Charlie) That's near North Park Cemetery. She's going after Saul. (to radio) That's all received. DS Weston on the way.

 

MB: (at HQ) I'll arrange back up Jack

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Scene 56 ( 35.54 - 37.04 )

Jack, Charlie and two uniformed officers arrive at the cemetary and run towards the area where screams are heard. They find Sadie viciously attacking Saul with the axe. :( She throws the axe and runs when they see her, Jack persues while Charlie stays with Saul and calls for an ambulance. Jack and two uniform officers restrain Sadie while she struggles and screams, Jack arrests her and uniform take her away. 

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Jack takes a moment, his hands on his head.

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 Scene 57 (37.05 - 38.02 )

Martha and Jack interview Sadie (solicitor present). Sadie is remorseless and laughs. She claims Nate was like her little brother and Jonathan was taking him away from her.

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Scene 58 ( 38.03 - 39.19 )

Jack and Martha interview Nate (solicitor present). Nate reveals Sadie helped him when he was on the streets and they soon worked out they'd make more money if they worked together, so while he was with men she would rob them. Her violence started later on when nate was being attacked by a man  and she sorted him out, and got hooked on it.

 

Scene 59 ( 39.20 - 40.11 )

Back in the interview room with Sadie, she agrees with Jack that she enjoys what she does or she wouldnt keep doing it. She tells them Nate should be let off  and that she killed Michael, with the same hammer, while Nate was in custody so he wouldn't be implicated in Jonathan's attack and would be let off.

 

Scene 60 ( 40.12 - 41.28 )

Back in the interview room with Nate, Jack asks him about how he felt watching Sadie kill Jonathan Moxton. Nate is very emotional and tells them she turned up at Jonathan's and he told her to  go away but she begged him to let her in, so he did, and when she attacked him, he ran away and didn't try and stop her. He tells them Jonathan was everything to him because he was the only person who cared about him, apart from Sadie.

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Scene 61 ( 42.29 - 42.43 )

Back in the interview room with Sadie, she tells them Jonathan's attack was not pre-meditated. Martha challenges that because of her MO. (tying up, knickers in mouth). Sadie continues to be remorseless and Jack questions her psychology.

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JW: Why do you think you're like this? I'm intrigued by the psychology.

SB: Why I'm like this.

 

JW: Yeah. Because you're not normal. You're not exhibiting traits of normal behaviour. You are exhibiting traits of what I would call psychotic.

 

SB: You've seen nothing yet, then.

 

 

Scene 62 ( 42.44 - 43.05 )

In the main office Charlie finishes paperwork and Martha asks Jack how Saul is, he replies that he is stable and declines the invitation for an after work drink as he is going out for a session with the Irish lads. Charlie looks up as he leaves, as if questioning where he is really going.

 

Scene 63 ( 43.06 - 43.50 )

Jack is really at the hospital, sitting in the waiting area to hear about Saul. Charlie arrives, having worked out where he is really going.

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JW: Ah, Jesus. Don't you ever have a night off?

 

CS: Nah.

 

JW: Who are you here to see?

 

CS: Saul. And you. How is he?

 

JW: I think he's going to be OK. Doctor said he's gonna make a full recovery. Which is great.

 

CS: Police a bit soft now, are we?

 

JW: Speak for yourself.

 

Doctor: You can see him now.

 

JW: Excellent. CS: Cheers.

 

JW: Charlie? Thanks for coming.

 

CS: Pleasure... Jacqueline.

 

JW: Charles.

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