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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 3 | SUNDAY 19 OCTOBER 2014

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RE: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 3 | SUNDAY 19 OCTOBER 2014
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Hi everyone!

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haha! whimsy - I am neither good nor bad but many shades domino

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Oh good more people. Yay!



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Ok shall we just get stuck in to this episode?

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hi Jozie, HLH, Rosie, Jane, domino... and the quiet lurkers... highfive



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let's do this!



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are we ready? any late comers please just jump in when you get here!

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Hi all! Lets do this! Much to talk about

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agree Jozie, so.................. let's hurry on this one!

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didn't have a re-watch chance, but I know your detailed scene breakdowns will help me remember things!



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Scenes 1 - 6 (15 mins)

Scene 1 ( 0.00 - 01.04 )

The episode opens with a news report voiceover of an attack on a man at the West Willow Canal, while Jack Charlie and forensics are at the crime scene

News Report: Police are appealing for witnesses a man was found unconscious with life threatening head injuries the West Willow Canal in East London today. Police are treating the attack

as attempted murder.

Jack has identified the victim as Scott Freeman, a known paedophile hunter whose MO is to pose as a 14 year old girl online to lure in paedophiles arranges to meet them, then bashes them.

 

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CS: That's a high-risk strategy.

JW: Well, the guy's got it coming to him, you know

CS: Well that's hardly fair, you didn't see him. He's in a bad way.

JW:  If you take the law into your own hands, you take the risks. OK.

 

Scene 2 (1.05  -  2.06)

Charlie shows Jack and Martha a video of Scott Freeman confronting a man he set up and has found out he arranged (online) to meet another man at the tow path that morning, but the ip address is only traceable to an internet cafe.

 

Scene 3 ( 2.07 - 02.43 )

Charlie reports to Martha and Jack at the crime board, Scott is in a critical condition. He has a wife and two daughters, Jack knows one of the daughters who has been in on drug charges and assault before. Martha asks Jack to break the news to the family.

 

Scene 4 ( 02.44 - 03.33 )

Jack arrives at the Freeman house with a uniformed officer. Kelly answers to door and tells him Iris (her mother) died 2 weeks ago.

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Once inside Jack informs her about Scott, who, Kelly tells him, disappeared for 9 years and only returned when her Mum died.

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Scene 5 ( 03.34 - 04.46 )

Jack talks to Kelly at the hospital where she is visiting her father. He tells her Scott was attacked between 9 - 10 am but someone used his cash card at 9.45, so they are wondering if it could be Rose. Kelly tells him that Rose and Scott had argued and she had followed him when he left the house but that she could never attack him. Jack asks what drugs Rose is taking these days, Kelly responds that she is using meth.

 

Scene 6 ( 04.47 - 05.16 )

In Martha's office, Charlie reports to Martha and Jack that Scott's phone shows calls to the Shaffer Dance Studio. Martha's daughter Daisy goes there, she looks concerned but sends Jack and Charlie to investigate.



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Ditto, whimsy. 



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I was kind of disappointed in this one.  I knew who was involved immediately.  It's the only one I've felt was predictable. 



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The opening scene is fascinating to me.. Jack's experience comes across but also I was surprised by his statement:

JW: Well, the guy's got it coming to him, you know



and also, this is a somewhat portentous comment, the irony of it becoming apparent later on in the episode:

JW: If you take the law into your own hands, you take the risks. OK.



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Agreed Domino. It was very much a foreshadowing of things to come. 



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This one shot right into a huge emotional roller coaster.  I just thought poor girls.  And I could see Jack right away getting emotional.



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Jane - I agree that it was much more obvious who was guilty in this ep...it was much more about finding proof rather than the proof leading to the guilty party, but that's what made it so interesting. I loved this ep!

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I liked the start, Jack already seemed to be irritated by this case when he realized there might be pedophiles involved, but I was surprised how he react for someone who try to catch them. Maybe he was irritated cause it seems unprofessional and dangerous, foolish thing to do to try to get these criminals yourself without going to police.

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Jack seems stroppy right from the off. Agree domino, his comments about.taking the law into his own hands is very pointed knowing what happens

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Haha - portentious statement yes...but I don't find it a surprising comment coming from Jack!


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the opening scenes also refer to known offenders to Jack, Scott and Rose, which again establish his experience...
but he is initially quite judgemental of both.

However in scene 4 he is really sensitive to Kelly

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