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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 3 | SUNDAY 19 OCTOBER 2014

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Martha is typically blunt here (not in a bad way). Jack is showing his instincts but not revealing his hand until he gets proof.

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I get you Whimsy.  It seems unfair to protect her own child and not protect the others.  But I guess there isn't really much she can do with no proof.  That might cause a lawsuit or something.   



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I did LOL at Jack's precise description of Shaffer though.  



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Know what you mean whimsy....but I think that's an improv thing happening right there! Fay was put on the spot totally!

Love the little knowing smile that Jack gives when he asks Martha how Daisy is once they're outside though...

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agree Jozie, those moments of humour... from interviews we've seen, a reflection of how those in the real job get through it.

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so, the next scenes coming up contain one of my all time fave scenes in Suspects....

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Know what you mean whimsy....but I think that's an improv thing happening right there! Fay was put on the spot totally!

Love the little knowing smile that Jack gives when he asks Martha how Daisy is once they're outside though...


 hmmm didn't think about the improv bit. 

Oh yes, that little knowing smile. biggrin



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Scenes 20 - 26 (15 mins)

 

Scene 20 ( 15.55 - 16.29 )

In the main office Jack is at his computer, ("Who's broken the printer?") when Charlie walks in and tells him she has been checking the texts between Scott (posing as Cindy) and the man who he was arranging to meet, who signed off with "sweet dreams" which is what Rose reported her rapist said to her. The number belongs to a Dr Philip Cleaving.

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Scene 21 ( 16.30 - 17.15 )

Charlie shows Martha and Jack a photo from CCTV footage showing Dr Philip Cleaving texting on his phone at the same time as the internet chat Scott had, with the IP address traced to the internet cafe.

CS: I don't think it's looking good for him at all. He is messaging someone he believes to be a 14 year-old girl called Cindy, then arranges to meet her on a deserted towpath by a canal. So, in my mind, that sequence of events leads to Dr Cleaving turning up, meeting not Cindy, but a very angry Scott Freeman who calls him out as a paedophile and a rapist.

 

Scene 22 ( 17.16  - 17.44 )

Jack arrives outside Dr Cleaving's surgery to see him leaving, as he calls out to him Dr C breaks into a run and when Jack catches him up he seems scared, "Don't hit me!" but Jack says he is not going to hit him and asks him to come to the station for questioning.

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Scene 23 ( 17.45 - 20.35 )

Jack interviews Philip Cleaving, who admits he has been going online the past few months but claims he has not been chatting to children, but people that are 'role playing'. So when he arranged to meet Cindy, he was not expecting to see a child. He claims he did not attack Scott Freeman.

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Scene 24 ( 20.36  - 21.52 )

Jack returns to the dance studio and shows Edward and Tamsin a photo of Dr Cleaving, asking them if they know who he is. They admit to knowing him but Edward says he had not seen him for years and years and that he is not connected to the dance studio, or the dance comp 9 years ago.

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JW: Hello? Me again. Not for the last time, I'm sure. Mr Shaffer, could you join us for two seconds? Listen, I'm having awful trouble, identifying this man. Do you know who that is?

ES: Yeah, it's Phil.

TS: Dr Phil Cleaving.

JW: So you know this man?

ES: Yeah, I was at university with him, like, 20-odd years ago.

JW: So you were good friends.

ES: Well, then we were. I've not seen him for years and years.

JW: Nine years?

ES: I don't know, about 15 years, I think. A reunion or something. I can't remember. Years ago.

JW: But not nine years ago?

ES: No, why would?

JW: Right.

TS: Is this connected to Rose?

JW: Yes.

TS: Phil was never there, was he?

ES: No.

TS: He's not connected to our studio or academy. I don't think he'd have any reason to be there.

ES: He has no interest. Why would be there?

JW: There are no right or wrong answers. It's not an exam.

TS: Sorry, you just caught us in the middle of something. We just...

JW: I'm in the middle of something too. Listen, I'm going to need a list of people who attended that dance competition.

TS: We haven't got a problem with that. It'll be on an old computer.

ES: What's he supposed to have done, anyway?

JW: He's helping us with our enquiries. Thanks very much.

 

Scene 25 ( 21.53  - 22.25 )

Charlie shows Rose a picture of Dr Cleaving and she confirms "this was the man who attacked you".

 

Scene 26 ( 22.26 -  22.53 )

Jack and Charlie discuss the case in the office. Jack points out that if Dr Cleaving raped Rose then the Shaffers gave him access, "end of story". Martha comes to inform them that Scott has passed away and asks Charlie to break the news to Rose. Jack informs the office team "We have a murder enquiry now."



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So I could spend hours just talking about scene 26.. but before that we should mention that moment with the broken printer! LOVE that moment!

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ES: He has no interest. Why would be there?

JW: There are no right or wrong answers. It's not an exam.

TS: Sorry, you just caught us in the middle of something. We just...

JW: I'm in the middle of something too. Listen, I'm going to need a list of people who attended that dance competition.

TS: We haven't got a problem with that. It'll be on an old computer.

ES: What's he supposed to have done, anyway?

JW: He's helping us with our enquiries. Thanks very much.

 These are some of my favorite snarky Jack lines! 



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Amazing amazing amazing, no wonder these are your faves domino, Damien impro skills are shining in these ones! But the scene 22 when he "ask" Dr. Cleaving to come with him is one of my favs. I liked how he approached him and kept his professional attitude even clearly Cleaving showed guilty moves

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Who's broken the printer?

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Snarky Jack indeed, the scene 24 was like, do you know this guy, yes we do, ok thanks bye (and his inside voice screaming so loud you can almost hear it; "GOTCHA!")

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and.. why didn't he arrest Dr Cleaving? he just asked him to accompany him to the station, yet when he got there he was wearing the grey trakkies!

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Yes. Well put Jozie. 



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and.. why didn't he arrest Dr Cleaving? he just asked him to accompany him to the station, yet when he got there he was wearing the grey trakkies!


 Good point domino, why not indeed? He was already suspect?



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I think it must be very hard for the police to deal with people like Cleaving, knowing what they've done but having to remain professional.

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agree, well put Jozie.  you can practically see him screaming it inside!



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If that was an arrest, it was certainly most coolest one Jack have ever done.

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In scene 26 Jack is so COLUMBO multiplied by 1000 coolness!

Columbo's MO was that he knew who the prime suspect was from the start, and he would play these little mind games with them just like Jack does here. the way he looks at them, this line:

"Listen, I'm having awful trouble, identifying this man. Do you know who that is?" when he knows full well they know who he is!



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can also see him screaming internally during the whole interview with Cleaving "bullshit!"  that man's story was so farfetched...



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He kind of reminded me of vincent D'onofrio's character on Law & Order Criminal Intent, Domino. 



-- Edited by Random Jane on Sunday 19th of October 2014 09:47:51 PM

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Well, he certainly left them looking worried

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JozieMozie wrote:

Snarky Jack indeed, the scene 24 was like, do you know this guy, yes we do, ok thanks bye (and his inside voice screaming so loud you can almost hear it; "GOTCHA!")


 totally!!



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Jack just drips with sarcasm, he's just got no time for these people

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