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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 4 | SUNDAY 2 NOVEMBER 2014

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RE: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 4 | SUNDAY 2 NOVEMBER 2014
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fifi is probably hiding, in hopes...



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The idea of the 'cuffing' was too tempting for fifi! ;0)

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haha whimsy and Rosie... Jack is chasing her as we speak...



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shall we begin?

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lol!! I'm here....

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here we go then with the first scenes!

 

Scene 1 - 5 (15 mins)

Scene 1 ( 00.00 - 00.49 )

News report voice over with flashbacks to the last episode, including Jack interviewing the Schaffers and his finding, hiding and planning to plant the grey towel as evidence.

NR: There is shock and concern in East London this evening after the suspected murder of Edward Shaffer. Mr Shaffer, who was found dead after falling from the balcony of his third-floor flat, was the proprietor of a popular children's dance academy. Earlier today, police were called to an incident at the academy when Mr Shaffer's vehicle was vandalised. Mr Shaffer was later arrested in connection with an inquiry into a historic child rape. However, he was released due to lack of evidence. The police have refused to confirm reports that Mr Shaffer had made an official complaint against one of their officers. They are appealing for witnesses to Mr Shaffer's death.

 

Scene 2 ( 00.50 - 01.39 )

Jack, blood  on his hands, is being seen to by medics at the crime scene when Martha arrives. She asks Jack how he arrived so quickly, he replies he was close by and found Edward already dead.

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MB: How did you get here so quickly?

JW:Hm?

MB: You arrived before Charlie, you're here, he's just fallen so how did you get here so quickly?

JW: I was close by, so I turned the car around, arrived here, he's splat on the ground. I tried first aid, but the guy's dead. That's when Charlie arrives.

MB: How hard did you try?

JW: Oh, come on. What's the primary objective? Don't give me that shit.

MB: This man was just about to put in an official complaint against you

JW: What, I pushed him off the top of the building

MB: I'm not suggesting that Jack but you're going to have to be very careful, there are guidelines. So I want you to go back to the station, fill in a duty statement, hand over your clothes for Forensics.

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Scene 3 ( 01.40 - 02.19 )

Still at the crime scene Martha asks Charlie how Jack got there so quickly. She replies that she doesn't know, but that when she arrived he was administering first aid to Mr Schaffer. He fell from the top floor, but there is no sign of forced entry. Jack looks on, before making his way back to the car to return to the station.

Scene 4 (  02.20 - 02.39 )

Back at the station Jack has showered and changes his clothes. He retrieves the bagged grey towel from his locker

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giving a shady look before leaving the changing rooms.

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Scene 5 (  02.40 - 02.52 )

In the main office, Charlie watches as Jack hands in his clothes from the crime scene and the bagged grey towel, which he says he found at the tow path and would like fast tracked to forensics. Martha looks up from her office.

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oh Jack... shady shady Jack....

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thanks for getting fifi here on time Jack, you're a top detective!

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Right at the start I still wasn't sure what Jack had done.

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It looked really bad for Jack. Martha kept her cool pretty good.

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I thought it strange that although Charlie and Martha knew Jack they both had their doubts about him

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Martha was stern in her questioning, Jack was resentful of that..... the more times I watch it, the more my sympathies grow for Jack... as he actually did not do anything wrong in the end ....but gets himself into hot water anyway



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I enjoyed bloody Jack a little too much...

I was so glad we didn't have to wait more than one day from the cliffhanger, that's for sure.  I really thought for a bit that he might of hurt Shaffer, though by accident.  That was an unfair assessment on my part I think, thoughts of Hal bleeding over.  



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It was interesting that we saw something like this happening in these series, my mind blown away when I visited the set and saw this coming. They really are lifting Suspects to the next level. Jack was seeming to be bit annoyed all the time in the first scenes, he was obviously disappointed that Edward died. I sort of liked how he's all suspicious looking when he's dressing up and have the evidence. But I didn't like that Jack lied.. It doesn't fit for his character but it makes him more human thought..

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Rosie, his behaviour had been increasingly cause for concern I guess..... but the fact remains, there was no reason he should have been there before Charlie, Martha was right to question that....

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I think his behaviour up to that point hadn't really helped though. The fact that they doubted him suggests that they believed that Jack was capable of doing something to Shaffer. I do feel a little sympathy for Jack but he doesn't always make it easy

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I never really thought he'd done anything....but I'm still surprised that the fact that Shaffer was going to put in a complaint, and then wound up dead with Jack first at the scene wasn't treated a bit more seriously

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whimsy it was deffo a Hal moment for the fandom!

Jozie, you had such an amazing insight into this scene you lucky thing! I am glad it came as a surprise to the rest of us though. what an intense moment and we too are full of questions!

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There certainly is enough ambiguity in all these scenes to suggest he is culpable. 

I agree that part of me felt like Martha and Charlie should not have had cause to doubt him so quickly.  Martha zeroed in on how fast he got there quite quickly. (though I suppose we didn't see everything that happened between the time Charlie came and Martha grilling Jack)  They have worked with him for a while now (months? years?)  They should know his character fairly well, and this isn't the first time he has been like a dog with a bone.  

However, he did treat them a bit pants, so maybe they weren't in the mood to give him the benefit of the doubt by this point.



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yeah, Jozie....it was certainly one hell of a scene to have witnessed!


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The way he handled his own mistake trough this ep was little childish. Like when you do something wrong and you're just keeping the low profile and trying to get out of it and not face the consequences like adults do

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Jack seems more concerned that Shaffer has 'got away with it' rather than trying to figure out what happened which doesn't help him look less suspicious

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and when our sense are still reeling, we get the post shower scene...

 

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I agree Jozie....but he behaved like a child for much of this series!

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